Bible Studies

A Study on Mystery Babylon of Revelation
(As taught by Andy Neckar at Community Bible Chapel-Hico, TX)

Mystery Babylon-Part Two-(The United States in Prophecy?)
These are my (Andy Neckar) views for now.  Take them for what they’re worth.

Dan 7:1-3 In the first year of Belshazzar king of Babylon Daniel had a dream and visions of his head upon his bed: then he wrote the dream, and told the sum of the matters. Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea. And “four great beasts” came up from the sea, diverse one from another.

These animals/beasts represent “Nations” In what “time period” are these beasts/animals represented?

 

Dan 8:17 So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: for “at the time of the end shall be the vision.”

Dan 12:9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for “the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.”

The angel is being very clear that “this vision is for the end of time”. This is an angel from Heaven speaking, not an evangelical preacher. It is important to take note of this because all the evangelical expositors say that this vision deals with Alexander the Great. Look at the major commentaries, consult the famous radio and TV preachers, and check the seminaries

These visions came to Daniel in the reign of Belshazzar, the son of  Nebuchadnezzar. Nebuchadnezzar ruled from 605 B.C. to 562 B.C. His son Belshazzar ruled after him for a short while and his kingdom was conquered by Darius the Median sometime in the 5th century before Christ. The Bible says that Belshazzar’s empire would be divided in two and given to the Medes and Persians (Dan 5:28)

The Median empire was defeated by the Persian, Cyrus the Great,. The Persian Empire was defeated by Alexander the Great around the middle 330’s B.C.  It takes to much figuring to come up with fixed dates.

BUT-you can see by the dates that the prophecy of Daniel, although it fits the “Mede”, “Persian” and “Greek” empires, is SYMBOLIC of the LAST DAYS PROPHECY.

Just because biblical scholars, for centuries, have incorrectly interpreted this vision to be Alexander's defeat of the Persian armies does not make it so. Alexander the Great was not living at the “time of the end”. For the few "Bereans"  Acts 17:11) of today it is clear that the nations referred to in the Scripture are SYMBOLIC of the END TIMES NATIONS

The “time frame” from the visions to the traditional fulfillment were no more that 250-300 years or so. This would be hardly the “end times”, wouldn’t you say?

Dan 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book,” even to the time of the end:”  many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.”

Just WHEN were people able to “run to and fro”? (air transport) WHEN was “knowledge increased”? (all the great inventions of OUR TIME) Certainly not at, or around, 500-300 B.C.

Only in the “last 100-110 years” has all of this come into being

Now-back to the four beasts.  
As I believe we are now in the “end times of the end times”, I will speak of the Nations as represented by the beasts in OUR TIME.

Dan 7:4 The “first” was like a “lion”, and had “eagle's wings”: I beheld till “the wings thereof were plucked”, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it.

The modern day country whose symbol is of a “lion” is “England”.  England at one time was such a vast empire that it was said, "the sun never sets on the British Empire".

Now out of the “Lion” came “Eagles wings”.   The modern day country whose national symbol of the “Eagle” is the “United States of America”.  We came out of England, fought the revolutionary war against England.  We claimed independence from England and became a superpower.

England (the English colonies) gave birth to America.  The Lion was made to stand upon its feet like a man.  A lion   “standing upright on its hind legs” is the modern day symbol of England

Dan 7:5 And behold another beast, a “second”, like to a “bear”, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh. (kill many people)

The “modern day country” whose national symbol is the “bear” is “Russia”.

When the Medes and Persians came to seize power from Babylon and conquered the city, they came and killed Belshazzar and the royal family. “Babylon fell to oppressors”.

When Lenin and Trotsky led the Bolshevik revolution in Russia the first thing they did was kill the Russian Czar and his family “Russia fell to oppressors”.

Many people died by the hands of the bear in the reigns of Lenin and Stalin.

The bear beast has three ribs in its mouth.  The “three” founders of Communism.

(1) Karl Heinrich Marx, born. May 5, 1818, died. Mar. 14, 1883, was a German economist, philosopher, and revolutionist whose writings form the basis of the body of ideas known as MARXISM.

(2) With the aid of Friedrich ENGELS he produced much of the theory of modern SOCIALISM and COMMUNISM

(3) Vladimir Lenin, founder of the modern Russian Communist party, leader of the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917, and first head of state of the USSR

Dan 7:6 After this I beheld, and lo another, (third) like a “leopard”, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it.

Modern day scholars say the leopard was the Grecian Empire under Alexander the Great, because the leopard is know for its speed, and Alexander conquered the know world in record time.

The “modern day country” whose national symbol of the “leopard” is “Germany”.  

Alexander the Great ruled for “12 years”, and was “conquering the world in record time”. 

The Greek army of Alexander the Great was able to conquer the known world in an 11-year campaign (334-23 BC) He ruled one year before he started his aggressive campaign.

 Adolph Hitler ruled for “12 years” as well,
Adolf Hitler-1889-1945, dictator of Germany 1933-45 .

Hitler's aggressive expansion give rise to the Blitzkreig (Lightning War) of World War II. His armies were finally defeated by the Allies in May 1945.  

When Alexander the Great died, his empire was divided by “four generals”.  

Alexander the Great won a vast empire, but on Alexander's death (323) this empire began to separate into “four distinct kingdoms” each ruled by one of his generals.

When Hitler died, Germany was divided by “four countries”: The United States, England, France and Russia.

Could it be that England Russia and Germany are in prophecy?

Dan 7:17 These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, (ruling countries) which shall arise out of the earth.

I believe three of these beasts have already risen and came to power and at this time are no longer in power. They exist, but they are no longer a RULING POWER.

Dan 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a “fourth” beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

America subdued (1) England in the Revolutionary War and the war of 1812.  America subdued (2) Spain in the Spanish America War. It subdued (3) France in the French and Indian Wars.  After it TOOK and BOUGHT land from the three kings it became as it is today. The BOUGHT land was a result of being SUBDUED by America.

Dan 7:8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things. 

Now the LITTLE HORN that came up AMONG them was the nation that was to become the United States of America

America subdued, or plucked up (1) England in the Revolutionary War and the war of 1812.  America subdued (2) Spain in the Spanish America War. It subdued (3) France in the French and Indian Wars.  After it TOOK and BOUGHT land from the three kings it became as it is today. The BOUGHT land was a result of being SUBDUED by America.

WHAT or WHO is this FOURTH BEAST?

Dan 7:19 Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass; which devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet;

Dan 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the “fourth kingdom upon earth”, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

Dan 7:24 And the ”ten horns” “out of this” (“min” an Aramaic word also translated as, after, because, before, since, of, part of) kingdom are “ten kings” (ruling nations) that shall arise: and “another shall rise after them”; (USA) and he shall be diverse from the first, and he (USA) shall subdue three kings. (England-Spain-France)

It could be translated as “ten horns BEFORE this kingdom”. This would leave the FOURTH beast to be the LAST beast/nation.  The fourth would be the end-times nation out of which the anti-christ would come.

OR it could be that the FOURTH beast/nation would be symbolic of the ten ruling nations at the time America was discovered. Therefore, out of the TEN a LITTLE NATION was born and it became great by subduing three of the ten nation.

If we took a close look at modern history, I believe we would find that 10 countries/kings were in power at the birth of America. 

I can name these just off the bat.   England, France, Spain, Portugal,  (read about the Portuguese colonies) and Holland (Netherlands-read about the Dutch East Indies and New Amsterdam.  Now New York City in America)

THEY were in power and ANOTHER shall rise AFTER them.  America was this NEW POWER.

This NEW POWER will SUBDUE three kings/countries/nations.

America subdued (1) England in the Revolutionary War and the war of 1812.  America subdued (2) Spain in the Spanish America War. It subdued (3) France in the French and Indian Wars.  After it TOOK and BOUGHT land from the three kings it became as it is today. The BOUGHT land was a result of being SUBDUED by America.

We just saw the fourth beast of Daniel, now let us look at the SAME BEAST that rises up out of the water (land of peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. Rev 17:15)

Revelation 13:1-2  And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.   And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

If this interpretation is correct, notice the beasts that form the “final empire”.   The “Leopard”, “Bear” and the “Lion”.  What is missing?  The “EAGLE IS MISSING

Daniel 7:4 says that the first beast/country was like a lion, and had eagle's wings and Daniel  beheld until “the eagles wings were plucked

What happened to the Eagle that at one time belonged to the Lion/England?

Ezekiel 38 describes a great war where a host of countries attack Israel and Israel comes out victorious by the supernatural intervention of God.

Ezekiel 38:10-12 Thus saith the Lord GOD; It shall also come to pass, that “at the same time” shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought:  And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,  To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the “desolate places that are now inhabited”, and upon the “people that are gathered out of the nations”, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land.

Could it be that “at the same time these countries attack Israel,” there is an attack on the US?  Notice the language of the passage: The land was desolate at the time the prophecy was written, but is now inhabited at the time the prophecy is fulfilled.   The land was filled with people gathered out of the nations.  What country seems to fit this profile?  I think that the United States seems to fit this almost perfectly

- To be continued...